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Talk about the voice of futures
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I have been in business for ten years and have seen countless such commodity futures traders. Frankly speaking, more than 90% of them are miserable, and only a few are better. The whole process is long and extremely difficult.

Unless you are a rich second generation and have a mine at home, it must be a better mine.

The reason is very simple, the key is two points:

1, buying and selling must have a lot of asset accumulation experience.

In commodity futures, the improvement of professional skills comes from personal experience. You must experience enough to really become a professional player.

So in the early days, training fees were absolutely necessary. I have never met anyone who has "innate knowledge" in commodity futures.

You must experience enough losses to understand the necessity of stock stop loss, and if you want to stop loss without reason, you must experience sudden opening of positions, and you can fully understand the necessity of fund allocation. You must experience a wave of market conditions to understand the necessity of development trend, and you must experience desperate failure to understand the necessity of opportunities.

In commodity futures, it is a very tragic objective fact that only when it is severely hit will it feel hopeless. So in the early days of commodity futures, you must have enough assets to damage.

If you work from home, you must constantly invest money and assets to get in touch with professional skills, earn money to support your family and even get rich? Very difficult.

2. Don't be the top 10%, _ with income.

Commodity futures industry, if it does not become the top of the pyramid, there will be no income, which is also the direct reason why futures trading can not be employed immediately.

You drive, you cook, you can program, you study medicine, and you don't want to be the top 10% god in all parts of the country. As long as your level is above the middle and upper reaches, you can find a job to earn money to support your family.

However, commodity futures, even if your level exceeds 70%, are useless. You're either a loser. Pay the fee or practice again.

More than 70% is extremely difficult, and it is also difficult to become the former 10%. Think about it, you have no income in this whole process. How can I make money to support my family?

Let alone get rich.

Therefore, you don't have to always think about professional futures trading, although it seems very casual.

Yuanda said: To put it bluntly, freedom is not unrestrained, but only its own master. You must suppress your impulses and be responsible for yourself and your family.

So, don't hesitate to find a job that can get immediate benefits. Commodity futures is a sales market full of uncertainty, and it should not be your main business in the early stage. You should earn money to support your family first, and then spend a lot of time studying futures trading scientifically. Take out some money and train gradually.

The second occupation can do hedging transactions at your own risk.

If you can't do futures trading, there will be gains. If you engage in futures trading, you will become rich.

How do you feel? Pay attention to praise and application, thank you.

I think there are two kinds of people, one is able to take a vacation and make futures by profession, which can not only make money to support the family, but also make a fortune; The other is that you can't. Such people will only be defeated if they persist in doing it. Let me talk about the difference between these two kinds of people, why some can do it and some can't.

People who can't specialize in futures

Now I belong to someone who can't do futures professionally. I tried my career a few years ago. I resigned at that time, and I was very happy. I finally got what I wanted, and I was able to do what I like professionally. However, I have been doing business for more than half a month myself, making small profits when I make money, and making big losses when I lose money. Occupation is to lose money if you don't make money today. So, back then, you were depressed. If you earn a little, you will soon be forced to close your position. If you lose money, you don't want to stop the stock loss, or even blindly follow the trend. That's it. After being out for more than half a month, it is difficult to earn money, and people's mental outlook is getting worse and worse. Finally, I decided that I was not suitable for professional business, and then I found another job.

Someone who can make futures professionally and make money steadily.

I know a friend who has studied futures trading for ten years. He used to do countermeasures in a company and study optimization algorithms scientifically. So he is very familiar with futures trading, and his optimization algorithms are all based on quantitative trading, with little manual control. Engaged in futures last year, the annual rate of return can be guaranteed 50%. In the field of futures trading, this level is not high, but it is mainly stable, and his countermeasures are withdrawn by 3% at most. 202 1 After playing by myself for a while, I also gave him my assets, with a profit of 55 points and a loss of 55 points. He helped me publish the net value of the fund once a week. It was really good to do it for a while, and basically did not reduce the position. The important thing is that I can get rich now and don't have to worry about buying and selling. Before, I invested a lot of time and energy with my own funds and lost a lot of money. Only when technical professionals do technical professional things can they do well.

Now I don't belong to the kind of person who can make money by specializing in futures, but ten years later, maybe I belong to that kind of person. So the theme of this question is not whether you can or not, but what kind of person you belong to.

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Because it violates one of the most basic standards: too close to business!

Mental state is a key part of buying and selling, and it is also the most critical one. If the mental state is unbalanced, then _ how much money is not enough to make money to support the family!

Livermore mentioned in his masterpiece of mobile games that all these ideas of making some money from business failed without exception. For example, you should earn some money from a merchant for a leisure holiday, or earn some money from a merchant for a high-end car. In fact, these ideas are all in vain! !

In the case of buying and selling, in order to better prevent excessive work pressure, many people will choose shopping, fishing or walking after placing an order, so as to better maintain a parallel brain and an optimistic attitude and prevent making incorrect decisions!

Trying to earn living expenses according to buying and selling has undoubtedly aggravated this kind of work pressure. You can become more and more paranoid, mentally unbalanced, and then make incorrect distinctions. Usually, you can't make money. A stock stop loss is not a stock stop loss, because there is always a voice in your head telling you that you haven't made any money today.

The taboo of doing business is to be too close to business, so you must keep a certain distance. If many securities companies find that a foreign exchange trader is losing money, they will usually let the foreign exchange trader rest for a day or two to prevent the foreign exchange trader from falling into the dilemma of gamblers, and at the same time keep the foreign exchange trader at a certain distance from buying and selling, so as to maintain all normal and stable mental state!

Therefore, it is impossible to have a solid technology before!

Answer honestly. Due to the job requirements of the enterprise, I just recruited and interviewed a person who is doing professional business at home a few days ago. Come to nearly forty years old, introduce their understanding of commodity futures, Kan Kan and Kan Kan, a face of excitement. It is calm and reasonable to talk about the types of buying and selling and market forecasting. Stock fundamentals, technical forms and data analysis can be described in all directions. From the language, I can clearly feel his confidence and professional knowledge. After listening to his words, I only asked, why should I go out and look for a job now instead of sticking to it? He felt a little guilty and responded with a smile. Later, because the market trend jeopardized his mentality, the risk control standard lost its perseverance. After the gambling agreement, he was defeated.

I don't know where the subject comes from and how he has survived in commodity futures so far, so I dare not jump to conclusions. But one thing can be firmly said to you, relying on career futures to maintain daily life, the chance of success is very small. Regarding the risk and profit-loss ratio of commodity futures, we firmly believe that the subject should be clear. The zero-sum sales market also has planners' pumps, so it is difficult to make a profit.

I entered the workplace at the beginning of ten years, and spent all my time dealing with futures trading, devoting myself to the manipulation of trading positions and the risk avoidance of enterprises, but I only participated for a few months. Naturally, I was overwhelmed by the elimination. Personally, I can't believe the opinions of these mediocre investment analysts. No matter what the basic theory is, successful people will turn applications into true knowledge, and unsuccessful people will turn applications into waste. As for the myth and legend of commodity futures getting rich overnight, legend is legend after all. Besides legend, there is also the misfortune of being forced to commit suicide by jumping off a building.

But in any case, the decision is up to me. I am a brick, expressing my original opinion. Warmly welcome messages on the message board, and your favorite friends care.

It is not easy to make commodity futures at home to meet the needs of daily life and even get rich. If your cognitive ability of the sales market is not high, I think you can get rid of this idea first.

The people I have met who have the ability to work are not professionals from the beginning. They all have their own jobs After years of precipitation, some have become professionals, and some are still working again. Although they earned much more money in futures trading than in their jobs, they didn't give up their jobs. Naturally, his job is a good job with many benefits. There are still some people who have not been abroad for many years, how long they have been obsessed with performance indicators, and how much they pay attention to improving their buying and selling cognitive ability.

When it comes to making futures by yourself, if you are not a particularly talented person, you must keep making profits for a long time. Not everyone can be a novice. This is not to say how profound this field is, but even some bad street knowledge, because of the damage of people's hearts and understanding, many people can't do it, or it takes a long time to feel the meaning and make progress.

Therefore, if ordinary people are pregnant with people who don't think about tea and rice in ordinary transactions, it is very likely that even the basic standards of commodity futures may not have a general panorama. What can full-time futures operation guarantee the income of living in a size at the moment? Working and commodity futures are not multiple-choice questions, and the quantitative trading strategy is not just that short-term stocks in the day must be engraved with mobile phone stocks. If you really can't forget the futures trading, it is also a plan to deal with the development trend in parallel under the situation of mastery.

The above suggestions are only for the inexperienced basin friends, for reference only, please ignore them. In this field, it doesn't mean that others can't do it; But just because others can guarantee it doesn't mean they can guarantee it. Therefore, you don't need to break your own path because of someone else's words, but learn to distinguish intelligently with objective facts.

Many people expect to make money to support their families or even get rich through financial products such as individual stocks or futures trading, which is not to say that it is very possible, but the probability of success of this method is very low, and it needs continuous study and training, continuous practical activities, summing up a set of rules, and then implementing and manipulating risks in the sales market to accumulate wealth.

This sales market doesn't care about the length of time you do it, but your cognitive ability to the sales market and your level of control over the risks involved in actual combat drills determine whether you can make money to support your family or make a fortune.

For investors, unless they are full-time entrepreneurs or elite teams cooperate with each other, try to buy and sell part-time jobs. Because full-time business involves a perfect management system in the sales market and personalized control over oneself, including 100% risk avoidance, you can look at full-time. Most people rush into full-time jobs without or without such regulations, and as a result, they spend all their youth and get nothing.

Or elite teams can cooperate with each other. This is a clear division of labor. Everyone does his job, compared with my full-time job. Don't patronize all risks, transactions, analysis and fund allocation. Elite team trading, each item is assigned to one person, which allows them to give full play to their work ability, and also overcomes their emotional out-of-control problems in risk control and trading, resulting in a detailed conduction chain, which is conducive to long-term stability.

I suggest that if you have been in the sales market for a short time and there is no standard for full-time trading, then don't give up your original job and buy and sell while exploring, so that the method of buying and selling will become a habit, the management system will be integrated into yourself, and the risk manipulation will become an idea, so that you can have an opinion on the sales market and follow it with awe, and then consider it after you integrate into the sales market and have a certain stable profit. Otherwise, you will get involved in the sales market too hastily. Maybe two years later, if you don't achieve the overall goal, you will consume time and youth, and you will also consume money. It's no use sighing when you look back.

There is no doubt that there are indeed many big bosses who can make a fortune in futures only by their careers, and there are also many mir legends in the futures industry. However, have you carefully watched their growth process?

Fu Haitang: 2009 -20 10, from 50,000 yuan to 654.38+200 million yuan, it took 18 months. In 20 16 years, the legend of Mir's 70-fold profit was created, and 10 billion yuan was guaranteed by self-financing. But he also paid the price for it. If he wants to jump off a building and commit suicide,

Ge Weidong, honorary title of Wulin, "Brother, I gradually made futures in 2000 and made two short positions. In 2004, he rose rapidly and became a hero in the lake. The average annual rate of return reached 1.20%, which was called "tojo hideki" by Wall Street in the United States, and was fined 1 1,000,000. At present, the property has reached 654.38+02 billion. We should not only look at his current wealth of 65.438+02 billion, but also pay attention to his two short positions. Moreover, others didn't specialize in futures at first.

There is also a case in which Fu Xiaojun, a giant of silicone circle in futures trading, committed suicide by jumping off a building.

This kind of boss is still the case, let alone a novice. Think about whether you can withstand the pressure of the warehouse.

A lot of futures trading, concerned about Niu Qian. com。

I responded:

1, ask yourself first: can you guarantee that it is not a big loss? Can you guarantee that every loss is a small loss? Can you guarantee that the whole will basically not be lost? Can you guarantee that you will make small profits but quick turnover at ordinary times and never lose money? Can you guarantee a small profit and a small loss at ordinary times, and sometimes a big profit and no loss? Can you ensure that the overall asset curve slopes smoothly to the upper right corner? If you can't do this, you don't have to think about your career.

2. You don't have to gamble on your career. You don't know how to take the road of career. You must try to make mistakes that ordinary people can't imagine, and even pay a more serious price. Others only look at fruit, and they are alone. Very few people go out, and bones that can't get out are everywhere. One will rot a million bones.

It is not recommended to take this road if you have a family, because you are so bitter and afraid of dragging your family down. A person's ability to work for himself for three years. If you can't get out in three years, you can change your profession and live your daily life again. Old people don't have to think about it.

The psychological state of futures trading accounts for the majority.

People who engage in professional futures trading at home are under much greater pressure than those who engage in futures trading at work, unless you are well-off, well-planned and can't afford to lose. Such people are rare.

The topic immediately talked about the normality of making money to support the family. The probability of making money by stock trading is too high. Therefore, it is not recommended to use futures trading as an asset to make money to support the family. With a little carelessness, the whole family entered the business.

I responded that it was really difficult. Unless you have a stable operation mode and enough practical work experience, it is really impossible to take a vacation and do futures at home.

In fact, financial markets can always stage one scene after another, and some investors or speculators will always become Mill legends. The lure of wealth and the third-order Rubik's Cube of assets attract everyone who cares about it and make a living by trading, thus completing the freedom of wealth and achieving my own success. I don't need to work for others to make money, and I don't need to look at other people's eyes. All I have to do is rely on myself. This is also the ideal of many people who want to make a living by trading.

However, if ordinary people want to have a stable operation mode and enough practical work experience in commodity futures career, it will take at least ten or eight years to hone, and only a handful of people will succeed in the end.

The characteristics of commodity futures determine that only 1% of the participants become the big winners, and 99% of the participants eventually become the quick-acting cannon fodder of the big winners. The result was tragic. In other industries, if you study hard enough, making money to support your family is not a problem, and even the probability of getting rich is greater. Doing futures is different. Futures trading focuses on understanding, not enlightenment. After all, most people will never be enlightened!

Therefore, it is not advisable to take a vacation and do futures at home to earn money to support the family. If you are interested in this, or find a job, you can study commodity futures scientifically and only live for three to five years. How do you feel?