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Is domestic cheap beer still considered beer?

How to say it? I think since it exists on a large scale for a long time, it has its significance and influence. Although in the eyes of beer lovers, this type of beer is not considered authentic beer. Especially the Germans, their concept is that this kind of beer is just an industrial product, just a drink mixed with water, and it only counts if it is produced according to their beer purity law.

Let me share my personal opinion. The domestic beers you see such as Qingdao, Snowflake, Zhujiang, Yanjing, etc. are indeed considered beers. Strictly speaking, they are industrial lager pale standard beers. The characteristics of this beer It is to industrialize mass production. In order to control the output, cost and quality, some auxiliary materials will be added to reduce the cycle and control the corresponding indicators. At this time, several auxiliary materials appeared, such as syrup, starch, corn, rice, and hop extract. wait. Let me explain:

Syrup, starch, corn, and rice all provide sugar for yeast (starch is polymerized from glucose molecules). To put it bluntly, the original wort concentration does not have enough sugar, so these are used to make up. Significantly reducing costs also affects taste.

Those manufacturers that use syrup (made from cornstarch) are simply crude, and the beer they produce is synonymous with cheapness.

As for corn, due to its high starch content, most brands of Anheuser-Busch InBev use it. After I drank it, it tasted pretty good, a little bit killing.

As for rice, represented by Tsingtao Beer, its cost is higher than that of corn, and its taste is lighter than Harbin Beer or Budweiser.

Hop extract is also used to replace hops (lupulus) to reduce costs. The functions of hops are: 1. Add bitterness to balance the sweetness of malt. 2. Increase the taste and aroma of beer. 3. Increase the shelf life and stability of beer. It can be said to be a natural preservative. Although hop extract is also an extract of hops, it is like the difference between compressed biscuits and normal biscuits. Industrial production saves costs and cycle time and really simplifies complexity.

As shown above, it is still a matter of cost. Although some of these wines taste good, such as Qingdao 1903, they are not as flavorful as the beer brewed with whole wheat juice. It’s not that there are no benefits at all. It’s not just to occupy the market and cope with competition, but also to allow the majority of people to drink beer priced at 2-5 yuan in a timely manner. Everyone benefits. This is the social value of their existence.

Compared with the excellent standard industrial lagers from abroad, such as Heineken from the Netherlands, Carlsberg from Denmark, etc., they brew beer with all malt and fresh hops, which makes it refreshing and slightly bitter. , although it is still considered an industrial product by the Germans, I think the taste is really good, and it is a style. The cost of this type of wine is higher, rarely less than 5 yuan/bottle/330ml.

Among German beers, wheat beer is generally the most popular. The alcohol content is generally around 5°. It uses unfiltered yeast. It has rich foam and rich wheat aroma. It is indeed very popular. People who like this style will choose it again. If you drink standard filtered beer, it will feel like water, but this is actually due to the style.

The above are all lager beers. Let’s briefly talk about the beers in the craft beer industry:

Belgian beer, the monastery style is the most popular. If you are used to drinking German beer, you will The lager styles were found to be almost identical. However, Belgian beer emphasizes the application of yeast. It is an ale upper fermentation, which takes a long time and has a small output. Coupled with the use of secondary or tertiary fermentation technology in the bottle, it can be said to be a master of brewing technology. It is indeed my favorite. If you are interested, you can check out my article about Belgian beer recommendations.

Other types of beer, such as IPA, stout and other beers that pursue bitterness or taste stimulation, the more bitter the craft beer, the more popular it is because of human beings' benign masochistic psychology. Represented by the United States and the United Kingdom, not all styles are acceptable to everyone, such as the American Dogfish IPA beer, the British stout Guinness, and the British Brewery Dog. Perhaps those who love punk must not miss it.

The question you asked itself is problematic. Domestic beer is not cheap beer. Qingdao high-quality large 8 yuan, Qingdao high-quality small 8 yuan, Qingdao pure raw material 12 yuan, Harbin light beer 6 yuan, Harbin white beer 8 yuan, Budweiser 8 yuan, Snowflake Tianya 6 yuan, Snowflake original juice wheat 7 yuan, Snowflake (bottle) Covered pull ring) 8 yuan, Jin Shi Bai Chunsheng 6 yuan. The above are the beers that are always available in restaurants.

Imported beer Fan Jiale 8 yuan. Compare malt concentration and alcohol content. Domestic beer is not cheap. The price is in line with international standards, but the quality is still very low. By the same token, if the quality is the same, the price will be more than a kilometer higher. Some people will ask where Fan Jiale can buy it for 8 yuan, so let me tell you, in our local RT-Mart supermarket and Asia-Pacific supermarket, it sells for 5.X yuan. The above price has increased my profit by more than 30%. Don't tell me that supermarkets are always flat. The average profit is 50%. Therefore, the beer we consume daily is not cheap, but is of the same consumption level or even slightly higher.

Don’t copy and paste if you can. I wrote it purely by hand and didn’t write a word of nonsense! Tsingtao Beer, Baotu Spring, Laoshan, I drink it every day. You guessed it, I am from Shandong! I have been drinking it in Harbin for a while, and the price for buying it in a box ranges from 30 to 45, and the price is still acceptable to ordinary people! At that time, we should not drink the copycat pure products produced in Pingyuan County, Dezhou, Shandong Province. They come in cans and wine bottles with plastic packaging for 10 to 15 yuan. It tastes really bad! The color is dark brown, so I’ve finished answering it. I hope everyone will pay attention to identifying it in the future! I’ve also had it in entertainment venues like Budweiser. To be honest, it’s almost the same as Tsingtao Beer, but the price is too expensive. 20 for a small bottle, what’s the point? Just to watch the girl show off!

Veteran driver’s point of view:

Some people say that German beer is authentic, while others say that the Chinese beer industry is fake. In fact, this is not the case. It's just that their craftsmanship is different, their prices are different, and their styles are different. Domestic beer is more suitable for the taste needs of Chinese people.

Beer originated in Sumer, located in the Tigris and Euphrates river basins, including Sopotamia in South America and the ancient city of Babylon, which is now Iraq. And it is carried forward in Europe and Germany. We know that barley and wheat are the main crops in these areas.

In the past five hundred years, the status of German beer is unshakable. It is they who have always adhered to the blood of traditional beer and become synonymous with pure beer. 500 years ago, Germany promulgated the "German Beer Purity Law" which strictly stipulated that the main raw materials for making beer could only be: barley malt, hops and water.

The decree was promulgated mainly to regulate the price of beer, to avoid competition with bakeries on the price of wheat and rye, and to a certain extent, to ensure the supply of food and drink. Balance, so it is necessary to limit what raw materials are used in beer and what raw materials cannot be used. With the continuous advancement of science and technology and the abundance of social resources, some modifications have been made to the law. For example, yeast and wheat are allowed to be added to the raw materials in the later period.

But no matter how German beer has changed to this day, it is still based on wheat, whether it is barley or wheat. So please remember this: the most important flavor of beer is brought by wheat.

Although some breweries in Germany now want to break through or are breaking through, they are not limited to this regulation. But Germans have always believed that beer should be based on the cornerstone of the "German Beer Purity Law". It is precisely because of this restriction that they can continue to get better on this road and produce more German beers that amaze the world.

Just like malt whiskey that originated in Scotland became bourbon whiskey in the United States (corn is the main raw material), beer also contains corn in the United States. Who said that there is more corn in the United States. And the addition of corn makes the beer taste light and soft. So different styles of beer appeared, jumping out of the limitations of German beer.

Beer is also an imported product in China. I don’t know whether it is due to taste or beer craftsmanship. Chinese consumers are more accustomed to refreshing beer. In other words, China's products are more diverse. Therefore, beer in China no longer adheres to German standards.

The beer in our country tends to be light and refreshing. This kind of beer is called "industrial light beer" in the industry. The name is not good because it is more economical and faster to produce. This kind of beer is more in line with the public's taste and is as "light" as possible.

Refreshing and light beer has become a preference for consumers. An important feature of "industrial light beer" is that the raw materials include rice, corn, starch, etc. Adding these does not mean that beer is bad, but has unorthodox origins. Just a malt beer. There are generally only four raw materials for beer, namely water, malt, hops, and yeast. Adding these raw materials such as rice and corn will, firstly, lower the cost, and secondly, the taste will be lighter, and it can adapt to the widest range of public tastes.

In fact, this is just a local stylization of beer, which is understandable. Of course, it will lack a lot of the wheat flavor of traditional beer. But it’s probably not easy for ordinary Chinese consumers to swallow a bottle of rich German beer in one sitting.

This kind of cheap beer is still beer under the Chinese legal system. It does not mean that German standards are sacred and cannot be changed. After beer is localized in my country, it is allowed to add raw materials such as corn and rice. Therefore, it is still beer and should probably be called Chinese beer.

As for whether it is cheap or not, it just depends on your choice. If you want to drink a bottle of beer for a few dollars, don't ask for the most orthodox German standard beer.

So how do we distinguish them in daily life? It's easy to tell them apart, just look at the beer's ingredient list.

Let’s discuss the knowledge points I know:

1. In the 1516 "Pure Beer Law", only barley, hops and water are allowed to be used.

2. From then on, the history of beer will be the history of barley and its substitutes, and the context is: barley → wheat → rice → syrup → starch. Glory belongs to Chinese wine merchants and Chinese national standards.

3. Before 1516, there were many ways to reduce the residual sugar content of barley fermentation. The Duke of Bavaria specified hops because he could collect them by taxing hops. In this way, he controlled the tax on beer and killed others. The method is that he can't collect taxes on private liquor. Chasing hop flavor came later.

4. Liquor koji also happened after Pasteur discovered microorganisms, so it is not included in the "Purity Beer Law".

5. After talking about 1516, let’s talk about the current one.

6. Look at the ingredient list. The one with rice is Chinese beer (shui). The brewing teacher told me that rice is used for beer and corn is used for liquor. The cost is low because of the high alcohol yield, so He doesn't drink domestic wine.

7. Look at the ingredient list. There is hop extract paste, which is extracted with chemical reagents. It is similar to chemical extraction of soybean oil. How would you buy the oil if you only buy physical pressing?

8. There are still many manufacturers in the edible oil industry who promote the selling point of "physical pressing". The reason why the beer industry has lost its voice is because all of them have collapsed, and all conscientious winemakers have closed down and been acquired. Not only China Resources but also many imported brands, you only need to take a look at the ingredient list.

9. Many imported beers took the opportunity to make a big invasion. I have seen them in big supermarkets and small wine shops for less than 10 yuan per liter. The ingredient list really only has barley and hops.

10. Under the avalanche, no snowflake is innocent. Don’t give opportunities to unscrupulous profiteers. Start with me and don’t drink chemical beer.

What kind of beer is considered "domestic cheap beer"?

According to our life experience, basically the beers provided by many food stalls and skewers places are in this category. The basic feature is that the price is low, usually 3 to 5 yuan, and the ingredients are You can always see rice, corn, starch and the like, as well as the three things that taste bland and taste watery.

Maybe it is because of this that in some places, the "disappointed" way to say "disappointed" to people drinking together at the wine table is "Oh, if it doesn't work, you can just drink beer.", so that's what beer is. Is there such a thing as “undesirable”? This is not the case.

So where does beer come from?

Although beer only entered our country at the end of the 19th century, its birth has been very long ago. As early as 6000 BC, the Sumerians used barley malt to brew the original beer; Widely popular (although the beer at that time was very primitive and not the same as now), hymns in praise of the beer goddess Ninkasi also appeared on the Mesopotamian plains, and the beer brewing technology also followed. It spread; until the ancient Babylonian king promulgated the first human code in 2100 BC, there were already regulations on brewers, which shows the influence of beer.

Later, beer was slowly introduced to Europe through Greece, the "transit station" between the Middle East and Europe. It was not until the 4th century AD that it spread throughout the European continent. During and after this period, the style of beer was constantly enriched. For example, mead mixed with honey, dark beer that appears in some places in the UK, beer brewed by the Irish that is similar to today's light beer, etc.

It can be seen that beer has not remained static since its birth. Its brewing technology and raw materials are constantly changing, so I think that no matter whether domestic cheap beer tastes good or not, they can indeed be regarded as beer. However, since the Grand Duke William IV of Bavaria promulgated the "Pure Beer Law" in 1516, which stipulated that only hops, malt, yeast and water can be used to brew beer, Germany has still maintained the quality and excellence of German beer after hundreds of years. The name has almost reached the point where "everyone knows it", and many domestically produced cheap beers use a large number of auxiliary materials (corn, rice, sugar), etc. to brew it and have gained the title of "water beer" in just 100 years. It can be seen that ordinary people have used Taste made the "vote".

So to sum up, theoretically speaking, domestic cheap beer is certainly considered beer, but for beer lovers, it may taste almost like drinking water. However, there are still many high-quality beers in China, but they are certainly not cheap.

Of course it is beer, but the taste is not the same as the original one.

We all know that beer in the past was mainly brewed from barley malt and hops. At the end of the last century, barley was converted into wheat, which greatly reduced the cost. It is still called beer, but the taste is lighter. At that time, beer production enterprises began to transform into shareholding systems, and the whole people became private shares. The replacement of barley with wheat is just to catch up with this trend.

Since then, my country's beer production industry has entered the fast lane, and the market supply has doubled. Mainly due to the general environment and the opening of the market, people's living standards have improved. Beer has entered the homes of ordinary people. They use it as a drink during social events, and consumption has increased.

In order to meet the huge market demand, beer production companies completed all integration in less than ten years. Countless small and large wineries have been merged into a few enterprise groups through acquisitions, which have played a positive role in product quality management and ensuring market supply.

The quality of beer is guaranteed, but the main production material is changed from barley to wheat, and eventually to starch. People generally feel that the taste is not as good as before, and there are many opinions in society. The real situation is not fraud like the rumors, but three determining factors: ① residents’ consumption level; ② beer consumer group; ③ product content quality. The beer consumer group in our country is ordinary people, who are only willing to bear the price of a few yuan a bottle. According to the current raw material prices, production and marketing costs, barley and hops still cost tens of yuan a bottle, and ordinary people cannot afford it. But it still needs to be drunk, so the two powers are at odds with each other. It is difficult for the winery, so they can only use cheap starch and add some flavoring agents. In other words, beer is still beer, but it doesn’t taste the same as it used to. But it allows people to drink cheap beer.

As the questioner said, "There is no malt in beer and it is directly fermented with starch. Is this still beer?" Strictly speaking, this kind of stuff without malt cannot be called beer at all.

Does the beer taste good? What is good beer? It definitely depends on the quality and content of malt. I think young friends who have been drinking beer for many years may not necessarily know. To be honest, most people regard drinking beer as a prop to show off at the dinner table, just like most people don’t know what it is. It's like good red wine. I just shout: Come on, let's go. One sip.

Domestic cheap beers, such as ice pure, ultra pure, refreshing, super refreshing, ice cool, etc., as long as the beer contains these labels, they are of low quality. Beer, because the original wort concentration has been stated on the label to be very low, and the alcohol content per unit volume is also between 2.5-3.3.

Lao Wang answered questions after reading this topic, and his answers were very professional and great! What is the composition of beer? Of course it cannot be separated from the substances that make it up: water, malt, hops, yeast. Among them, malt is the most important component of beer. This must be present, and it is more important than craftsmanship.

Judge whether beer is good or not? Lao Wang also said in the previous Q&A that when pouring good beer, the white foam should be delicate and should not disappear into water in a short time. The foam should hang on the wall for a long time. Through the glass, you can feel the richness of the wine body, not thin. Along with the carbon dioxide gas, there is an obvious malt aroma rising. After taking a sip, the taste is rich and strong, which is like the feeling when you open Coca-Cola and take the first sip. This kind of beer has not been available in the Chinese market for at least 18 years.

The style of domestic beer, whether draft beer or cooked beer, is light beer. This is also the beer drinking habit of our people. When you drink a can of purely imported European beer Yellow beer or wheat beer, you will be surprised by the thick taste, the long-lasting beer foam, and the circle of foam sticking to your lips. This is the true nature of beer. Take a sip and your whole back will feel relaxed.

The worst thing that beer capital tycoons can do to control breweries in other places across the country is to copy their own model, not to mention OEM, but also to make the characteristics of the beer in different places disappear, and the taste is extremely bad. Poor, this is undoubtedly the killing of unique culture, my friend, what do you think?

The cost of beer is really less than one yuan per liter. It’s just that manufacturers are now using gimmicks to cater to people’s pursuit of high-end products and making huge profits to produce dozens or even hundreds or even hundreds of thousands of liters of beer. In the last century In the late 1980s, the purchase price of wheat was 18 cents to 21 cents, and the retail price of bulk beer was 8 cents per liter. It was sold in enamel cans at supply and marketing cooperatives. The prices at that time were relatively reasonable, and they were all strictly based on one level. The profit margin was calculated, and the beer at that time was all whole wheat and the same type of wheat was used for malting and brewing. Corn syrup rice and starch were later introduced to reduce costs. Nowadays, wheat costs about two yuan per pound, and the cost of one liter of beer should be less than one yuan. This must also exclude factors such as technological progress and increased output. So there are no cheap beers, only overpriced beers. Nowadays, in order to increase the value of their products, many breweries use imported malt and imported hops. In fact, in beer production, fresh malt wine is the best to use, but the production process is difficult to control. The so-called imported malt is all dry malt. , just for the convenience of production and not beneficial to the quality of the wine. As for hops, the amount of flavoring is very small. Basically does not affect the cost of beer.