Employees who frequently change jobs will be placed on the credit report list. I wonder who came up with such a wicked idea? This will definitely cause the majority of workers to lose their right to choose a job, and ultimately leave them with no way out!

When employees change jobs, companies should first look for the reasons within themselves! As long as a good company cares and respects its employees and allows them to realize their self-worth, then even if other companies are willing to offer high salaries, they may not be able to let them choose to change jobs. On the contrary, if a sweatshop uses various means to exploit workers, it is inevitable that employees will choose to change jobs.

As a company employee, on the one hand, I want to make money to support my family, and on the other hand, I also use the company's platform to achieve personal progress and development. If an employee can neither earn money to support his family nor see his own development prospects while working in a company, then what is the value of nostalgia for such a company, and what is wrong with individuals choosing to change jobs?

In today's society, the phenomenon of cheating, cheating, abduction, and deception is becoming more and more serious. Many people do all kinds of unscrupulous things for money and interests, including these behaviors that do not respect integrity and ethics. It is indeed necessary to have a bad credit record, which is conducive to the improvement of social atmosphere. However, including those employees who changed jobs into the credit record is unfounded and unconvincing, and may even be suspected of abuse of public power!

Employees who frequently change jobs will be placed on the credit report list. It is not certain whether this is true or not. If it is true, the supervisor should have his IQ tested.

Since the founding of the People's Republic of China, we can see the changes in the talent market from college graduates looking for jobs.

The first stage: planned economy.

This is our parents’ generation. Around 1970, my father graduated from the Missile Major of Beijing Institute of Technology and was "assigned" to a third-tier enterprise in Guizhou, where he worked for the motherland's aviation industry all his life (a tribute to that generation).

At that time, everyone's work arrangements were based on "plans", from college students to workers, without exception. Therefore, when reading novels of that era, we sometimes see a plot: in a certain factory, the parents who worked in the factory had to send their children to the factory through their connections, and several members of the family worked in the same factory. , is a very common thing.

Job hopping? No, because there is no slot to jump into.

The second stage: dual-track system, popularly known as: two-way choice.

This is what our generation of college students have experienced. Around 1997-1998, when we graduated from college, the system of "complete distribution" had been broken, and distribution was parallel to market selection.

Therefore, some students began to find jobs by themselves through various means. At that time, there were also cases where they came to Beijing to work without registering. Today's students may not understand the pressure of "not wanting to have a household registration." At that time, the pressure from public opinion from one's hometown and relatives was far greater than the actual pressure, because there was no receiving unit, and the household registration would be returned to the place of origin.

At this time, a group of people who had the courage to try appeared in the workplace and began to choose to "change jobs." Around 1997, there was a buddy who graduated from college in 1994 and was assigned to the Beijing Internal Combustion Engine Factory. The factory was not very profitable. According to his own words many years later, he really didn't have enough to eat. So I saw a technology company recruiting people, and regardless of whether they were suitable or not, I went to interview for sales, hoping to make more money to fill my stomach, but in the end, I really wanted him. This company became known as IBM.

With more and more examples like this, at that time, most of the "assigned" college students who were nestled in state-owned enterprises in Beijing had an ideal: when they could go to work at the China World Trade Center.

The third stage: complete market economy

Two-way selection has been implemented for a period of time and it is found that there is not much problem. Especially after the development of the private economy, enterprises have more and more needs for talents, and the "planned economy" is obviously no longer suitable. Therefore, soon in the new century, Chinese university graduates will completely enter the market economy to find jobs, and both supply and demand parties will negotiate among themselves.

(Of course, the enrollment expansion that year also put some pressure on graduates to find jobs. This is another topic.)

After the entire talent market is fully marketized, it actually promotes the economy on a large scale. developed. Every enterprise and person has the right to choose. On the one hand, it reduces the pressure on enterprises (especially state-owned enterprises), and on the other hand, it also creates a soil for "talents to emerge in large numbers." The theory of academic qualifications and qualifications only does not work here. Only ability and results become the ultimate criteria. Especially for private enterprises, they can attract outstanding talents to join the enterprise through better mechanisms, higher salaries and more development space. It turns out that these talents are all in state-owned enterprises, because under the planned economy, college students are assigned to state-owned enterprises, and it is difficult for private enterprises to find talents.

Finally, let’s talk about this news. What can we speculate about is the reason behind this policy? The economic situation in 2019 is not good, especially the manufacturing industry, which is facing both external market problems and internal problems, including recruitment problems. The large flow of workers is indeed detrimental to the development of enterprises.

But at a deeper level, can we solve the problem by forcibly restricting the movement of workers? Not only may it not be solved, it may also cause bigger problems:

(1) From the perspective of internal management of the enterprise. Employees who are forcibly retained can completely become passive and slow down their work, leading to a direct decrease in production efficiency and thus a decrease in corporate efficiency.

(2) From the perspective of the external market. There may be a group of emerging companies that are in need of these "skilled workers", and these emerging companies are the core force for the entire industry to improve efficiency and optimize the supply side. If skilled workers are restricted, the efficiency of the entire industry cannot be improved.

(3) From a social perspective. A person has the basic right to choose to work or not to work and where to work. If there are good terms and a higher salary, no one can stop people from going higher.

Therefore, to solve the problem of enterprise employment, we cannot simply cut off the head if it hurts, or cut off the feet if it hurts. It must be solved from the perspective of activating the entire ecology, otherwise big problems will occur.

The boss in Zhejiang is very stingy. He wants the horse to run, not eat grass, and live long. How is that possible?

Zhejiang’s per capita GDP in 2018 was claimed to be 1,000 US dollars, and its average disposable income in 2018 was claimed to be more than 45,840 yuan. But the reality is that the vast majority of people in Zhejiang do not have 45,840 yuan to spend a year.

There are many companies in Zhejiang, and many of them are famous, such as Alibaba, NetEase, Greentown, etc. The annual income of these three CEOs can be provided to hundreds of thousands of Zhejiang people on average.

Take Ningbo as an example. There are almost 8.2 million people who are resident and mobile. The per capita disposable income in 2018 was 52,402 yuan, which is 430 billion yuan per year. Alibaba’s full-year profit in 2018 was RMB 67 billion. Alibaba has less than 87,000 employees. The per capita profit is more than RMB 770,000. A difference of 12 times.

Looking at housing prices in Ningbo, the city's average housing price at the end of 2018 was about 20,000 yuan. The average price in central urban areas such as Yinzhou was more than 2,000 yuan, in remote Beilun, it was more than 1,000 yuan, and the cheapest Cixi, Ninghai, was more than 1,000 yuan.

A person whose income is less than 50,000 yuan has to bear the cost of a house worth 1 million to 2 million yuan. If you don't change jobs, will you wait for death, or will you remain a bachelor forever?

Some people say that you can get married and have two families to share the responsibility. Even if two families share the financial burden, the average income of a family of 6 without eating or drinking would be just over 300,000 a year. I can’t even afford the down payment for a property in a remote area.

Think about it. Don’t employees want stability? Don’t employees want to grow with the company? But how many tangible benefits do employees get from the company for their hard work?

Of course, it is not ruled out that some employees are really jerks and lazy people, but after all, they are still a very small minority. We still ask the government to be more cautious on this matter and not just listen to the words of the capital side.

Chinese bosses and Chinese employees can be described as half-weighted. Giving this kind of treatment and wages allows us to learn how European and American workers do things. You don’t see that German workers work for 5 and a half hours. Of course, foreigners have evaluated the Chinese labor force. They said that Chinese companies give this kind of wages and let employees do the work. It is indeed excessive to do so many things for more than ten hours without Sundays, but the work efficiency and work attitude of Chinese workers are not worthy of the wages in Europe and the United States. Therefore, no one wants Chinese workers to go abroad, and Chinese bosses open factories in foreign countries. Being shut down on the first day is really a big deal. For example, some workers in Germany will stay in the enterprise for the rest of their lives without changing their profession, and many of them inherit the business from their fathers. Basically, three generations of grandparents are working in any profession. Chinese boss, go to Europe and the United States and try to open a factory. You can work 10 hours a day for 10,000 yuan a month. This kind of treatment will probably be smashed on the first day of opening. Even if it is not smashed, the relevant government will seize it. This kind of treatment is In the eyes of Europeans and Americans, it is completely against human rights.

The person who proposed this proposal is definitely the company or at least someone who only speaks for the company. No matter in the past, present or future, employees will always be the weakest party. When will employees Is it the stronger side? Huawei employees are so awesome, are they the weaker side compared to Huawei? If your company wants to retain people, start with remuneration. If the remuneration is good, who will find another job? The problem was not clearly understood, and the cart was put before the horse. In the end, the government still supported it, and I was speechless! If this plan is passed, the happiest people will be the business owners. They can squeeze their employees to their heart's content, but the employees will not dare to resist, and even resigning will be a luxury! Go and see if those advertising recruitment are illegal! It was originally written that I would be paid 5,000 for becoming a full-time employee, but in the end I was given 3,000. Please tell me, as long as your brain is not broken, you will definitely choose to leave and seek better treatment! Certain companies should be put on the dishonest list, not workers!

It is normal for employees to change jobs and leave their jobs. Even if they leave a company many times, it will not be serious enough to include them on the credit report list. It is not true that the questioner mentioned that Zhejiang Province will add job hoppers to the credit list. The questioner's question secretly changed the concept and caused misunderstanding.

After checking the relevant websites of the Zhejiang Provincial Government and the Provincial Department of Human Resources and Social Security, we did not find that Zhejiang Province has issued regulations that "if you change jobs too many, you will be added to the credit list."

This is how it should be.

The human and social credit system proposed by Director Ge is not the credit system implemented by our country, that is, the national credit system. The two are two completely different concepts. The former is a preliminary idea, mainly to constrain and standardize the relationship between enterprises and employees, while the national credit system is a credit system implemented by the state, with a very wide scope of application and rich content.

The reason why the Zhejiang Provincial Department of Human Resources and Social Security advocates the establishment of a human resources and social security credit system is mainly to solve the problem of malicious frequent resignations of employees, urge employees to find employment in accordance with the law and regulations, and terminate labor contracts in accordance with the law and regulations.

The Labor Contract Law clearly stipulates the circumstances under which employees can terminate the labor contract with the enterprise. Employees can terminate the labor contract with the enterprise in accordance with the law and procedures. Therefore, the law encourages and allows employees to terminate their labor contracts according to procedures.

For employees who frequently change jobs, as long as the termination of the labor contract is carried out in accordance with the law and procedures, we have nothing to complain about, and the law is fine.

However, for those employees who frequently change jobs maliciously, although they are terminated according to the procedure, it is not rationally appropriate. Malicious job-hopping will affect the normal production and operation of the company, increase the company's human resource costs, and is not conducive to the healthy development of the company.

As the questioner said, it would be too harsh to include employees who change jobs frequently into the credit reporting system. The national credit system is already very complete. Easily incorporating an employee who has resigned many times into the national credit system will have a very important impact on the employee's normal personal life.

I once met a colleague who was restricted from using the high-speed rail when he went out to learn how to ride the high-speed rail because his credit card was overdue many times, resulting in poor personal credit information. A bad personal credit report will have a very negative impact on the actual life of employees.

Regarding malicious job-hopping behavior, we cannot sit idly by and ignore the interests of the company. We should still take some effective restrictive measures to not only regulate the behavior of employees but also protect the interests of the company. As the leader of the Zhejiang Provincial Department of Human Resources and Social Security said, you can try to establish human resources and social security credit files to record employees' work and employment status, thereby restricting employee behavior and reducing malicious resignations.

Therefore, I do not agree with including employees’ frequent job-hopping behavior into the personal credit system.

Employees’ work is not easy and they need to be cautious when resigning and changing jobs. You can’t leave your job easily.

First, resign in accordance with the law and regulations. The Labor Law and the Labor Contract Law have very clear and detailed provisions on the circumstances under which employees resign. When employees resign, they must have legal circumstances, resign in accordance with the procedures, submit a resignation application to the company 30 days in advance, do a good job handover, and be a qualified and responsible employee.

Second, you need to be cautious when resigning. When employees resign, they must have encountered various unsatisfactory situations, such as low wages, poor treatment, or not being promoted. When these problems arise, quitting your job will not solve the problem. The key is to find your own way out.

Third, those who resign maliciously and frequently will be condemned. Although the law on malicious resignation does not explicitly stipulate that it is illegal, it is certainly against moral regulations. As an employee, you should be rational and act in accordance with legal rules. How to gain a foothold in the workplace if you are fired frequently?

In summary, the subject’s description does not conform to the actual situation and is taken out of context. Of course, as a working person, it is necessary to treat resignation and job-hopping rationally. No one can resign at will, as this is not conducive to their long-term development.

I have read so many opinions, but they all use some one-sided things or individual cases to prove that workers cannot be included in the credit report. Many employers say that this is wrong and that is wrong, and they propose that workers be included in the credit report. It must be that the constant job-hopping of workers has caused many problems to many employers. Could it be that if the employers have collapsed, are there still job opportunities for workers? Can state units absorb so many workers?

This should be viewed from a neutral perspective. Do many people think that the current labor contract is in name only? "The employee can leave the employer if he applies for resignation in writing one month in advance." Does it make sense? Now the binding force on employers is there, but the binding force on workers is too little. I believe that labor laws should be improved to allow employers to carry out work (production or operations) normally, and not to allow employers to be affected by the frequent job-hopping of workers. This impact will completely lead to slow, stagnant, or retrogressive development of the entire society. , the ultimate impact is still on the low income of workers, or even no jobs.

Labor law should regulate and restrict both parties. Employers who violate regulations and violate labor laws must be punished. Workers who do not perform according to the labor contract should also be restrained, so that society can develop healthily.

Restricting freedom of life is hegemonism. Who gave these people the right to manage randomly? Have you read the book? Have you ever studied management?

This is simply playing the piano indiscriminately. Did these unlearned managers learn the way they think about problems from that bullshit master? How could you be so stupid?

Do you understand what survival of the fittest means? Everyone just uses each other's value. If there is no value, how can we combine to create greater value? Whether it's business or production, who sold whom to whom? Do you understand what freedom is? Why do we set up these restrictions that make life miserable and tiring? Do you like to torment people just to satisfy your official addiction? Can't you live without torturing others?

If you want to change jobs, just jump! Everyone has only one life, so why not use your limited life for unlimited or greater value? Is it interesting that I have to earn 100 when I can obviously earn 10,000? What are the restrictions on job-hopping? A company that is not afraid of its employees leaving is truly a company worth following. A company that is afraid of its employees leaving is the most worthless company. Leaving means that the company has been eliminated by society and the market. If you continue to work, you are wasting yourself. Don’t managers understand this principle of life? (Why are some people who don’t understand management able to become managers in management positions) This is a joke!

If you think about it carefully, this decision makes sense. It is like a law and plays a normative role. Nowadays, too many people change jobs when their jobs are not going well. In the end, I wasted years and ruined myself, so this decision has more advantages than disadvantages, but some people are not willing to accept the reality, or are too willful. Finally, starting from the height of the position and the interests of the country, constant job-hopping cannot form the spirit of craftsmanship and nailing, and will also seriously distort the entire social atmosphere. This is actually the same as deducting points for motor vehicle driving, and a certain range of appropriate behaviors should be allowed. Job-hopping, however, is never allowed. Job-hopping that is just as explosive as hitting a snag. The word "dedication" in the core values ??of socialism has a profound meaning. To put it bluntly, how can people who really want to do something and are willing to do it successfully keep changing jobs? Finally, if the regulations are really implemented, I hope that detailed and reasonable provisions will be issued, which will truly play a positive role in promoting society and individuals in establishing good social values.