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Pierce said James was not in the top five in history. what do you think?
Obviously James didn't say to himself, I am the goat. It's crazy because it's hard for James to surpass Jordan.

But James is also below one person and above ten thousand people.

You may not like him, but he is really good.

The second person may still be controversial, but the top five are certainly no problem, and the top three are more reasonable.

Pierce's point of view is that James has never established his own dynasty and achieved his own rule in that team.

In addition, there has always been a spit on James, and James is a group. At the critical moment, he can't fight hard.

In fact, these are all misunderstandings about James.

Everyone knows that you really play basketball, but after you have made great efforts in front, is there a critical moment in the game?

One more thing, at the crucial moment, James passed the ball. Actually, this is not a tactic. I really don't mean that each ball really needs to come by itself. This casual approach is king.

Passing the ball is ok, after all, the goal of the team is to win.

35-year-old, the king of alliance data, and his career continues. He beat his predecessors, his peers, his peers, and his descendants.

He won the championship three times in nine consecutive years and is the youngest record holder in the history of the league.

Isn't that enough?

Who but Jordan can compete with him?

On the contrary, Pierce, as a media person, likes grandstanding.

Pierce may still have a grudge against James, because his career has been oppressed by James, so to speak.

James has been rated as the second in history by major authoritative media, second only to Jordan, the god of basketball. But some people just like to play the devil's advocate. Pierce said that James was not in the top five in history and was suspected of being narrow-minded.

Personally, I think Pierce didn't recognize James because he beat James many times in Celtic, but we can't deny James's overall achievement, let alone the second place in history, and the top five in history can definitely be guaranteed.

James entered the finals for the first time in 2007, and basically he gradually entered the peak period. In 2008, he won the first scoring title in his career and met the Celtics in the second round of the playoffs. This is the first year of the Boston Big Three. James finally failed to support himself and was eliminated by the Green Army 3-4.

20 10 James, the two consecutive MVP, met the Green Army again in the second round, but he lost. Because of the existence of the Big Three, James encountered the biggest bottleneck in his career, and finally had to choose to go to Miami to hold a group with Wade and Bosh, and finally broke through in the Celtics.

However, James' failure was ultimately because the overall strength of the Cavaliers was not as good as that of the Celtics, not because he was not as good as Pierce. The Heat beat the Celtics in the playoffs in the later period, which made Pierce somewhat unconvinced, but it was really inappropriate to deny James' achievements.

Back to the question of historical ranking, James's current champion number is too small, only three times, and it is indeed the second in history. There is still some controversy. After all, people like Magic, Jabbar and Russell are all ruling figures who have won the championship. The only reason why James can rank ahead of them is that the total career data is better, and then there are more first-class honors such as the best lineup.

Therefore, objectively speaking, James's second place in history has some emotional elements in it, because he is the only active player. When the Lakers ranked first in the West, everyone acquiesced that he could win the fourth championship. In fact, this championship is still unknown, so it seems a bit premature to rank James in the second place directly.

However, Pierce's statement that James can't make the top five in history is somewhat groundless. You know, although James has only three champions, he also has three FMVP, and only five people have achieved this achievement in history.

Even excluding other factors, the number of FMVP symbolizing winning the championship is enough to enter the top five, so Pierce's statement is completely subjective, so you can laugh it off and don't take it too seriously.

According to his current achievements, James should be in the top five in history. In the future, he will win more honors and accumulate more total data, so it is not impossible to expect to sit second in history. Pierce's point of view should be treated as a joke for the time being.

The top ten players in nba history are all great players. They have all been to the finals at least five times, and the finals are as follows.

Jordan: 6 finals, 6 champions, winning percentage100%;

Bill russell: 12 finals, 1 1 won the championship, with a winning percentage of 92%;

Duncan: 6 finals, 5 championships, winning percentage of 83%;

Kobe: 7 finals, 5 championships, winning percentage 71%;

O 'Neill: 6 finals, 4 champions, winning rate of 66.7%;

Jabbar: 10 Finals, 6 times champion, winning percentage 60%;

Bird: 5 finals, 3 champions, winning rate of 60%;

Magician: 9 finals, 5 champions, winning rate of 55.6%;

James: 9 finals, 3 championships, winning rate of 33.3%;

Chamberlain: Six finals, two champions, with a winning percentage of 33.3%.

Tied for third place according to the number of finalists, and tied for second place in the finals this year.

James ranked ninth in winning the championship;

Ranked eighth by the number of wins;

James is most like Chamberlain, who has created various records and got good data.

In addition, they all received special attention from the alliance. In order to contain Chamberlain, the league raised the three-second zone to 16 feet, and then Chamberlain's score dropped rapidly.

Similarly, in order to increase the breakthrough alliance, the manual inspection was cancelled and the walking rules were revised.

Is it the second person? Let's figure it out for ourselves. I think if Chamberlain is listed as the first person in history by another standard, then James is the second person.

Recently, Pierce said in an interview that the top five in his mind are Jordan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Russell, Magic and Kobe Bryant, without James!

This remark naturally caused controversy, and Pierce's former teammate Perkins was the first to disagree. He said that this ranking is full of personal feelings and is completely personal.

Pierce's ranking in the top five is no problem. After all, everyone has different aesthetic standards. As long as he is willing, it is no problem to rank passers-by A, B, C and D in the top five. Ignoring James again this time is in line with Pierce's "Zhan Hei" identity and reminds people of their dusty grievances.

According to Perkins' memory, the "problem" between James and Pierce was solved as early as 2004. At that time, it was only James' second season, and the conflict occurred in the preseason, because a friend of James was dissatisfied with Pierce's defensive action on the sidelines and swore. Pierce had no choice but to take it out on James. And James did not show weakness. They made more and more noise on the field and exchanged garbage. Things escalated, and the two sides almost fought in the dressing room passage after the game. Fortunately, Celtic teammates pulled Pierce away in time.

Since then, the two have been eyeing each other, and the off-court war of words has continued, and the meeting on the court is also tense.

Subsequently, James led the Cavaliers to meet the Celtics many times in the playoffs, but they just couldn't get through; After he chose to join forces with Wade and Bosh, he eliminated his opponent the first time he met Celtic, which aroused Pierce's unwillingness. He thought James chose to hold a group to escape the challenge!

Until Pierce retired, he still held a distinct personal view when evaluating James, thinking that James often changed teams and had no great achievements in any team.

What was James' reaction? James seldom makes enemies with others. He can smile and hug even when he meets many "enemies", including dream-chasing Green. Just for Pierce, he chose to completely ignore it, whether it was the off-court response or the encounter on the court. Earlier, Pierce and Perkins explained James' game together. James hugged Perkins before the game, but directly skipped Pierce sitting next to Perkins, making the latter very embarrassed.

After understanding the feud between Pierce and James, Pierce's ranking theory is not surprising.

On May 2 1 day, Beijing time, paul pierce, a famous Boston Celtics player and now an NBA commentator, recently gave his ranking of the top five players in history when he participated in ESPN's "NBA Countdown" program. It is worth mentioning that Lakers superstar LeBron James is not among them.

"Michael Jordan ranked first, Kareem Abdul Jabbar second, bill russell third, Magic Johnson fourth and Kobe Bryant fifth." Pierce gave the ranking of the top five players in NBA history. In the program, Pierce said that after watching Jordan's documentary The Last Dance, he further confirmed his point of view.

LeBron James is not one of them? In this regard, Pierce said that although James has made numerous achievements in his career so far, he has not really established his own winning tradition.

"Did James build any team on the court? Compared with the five contestants I listed, they all established their own traditions and dynasties. Bill russell founded the Boston Celtics, such as Magic and Abdul-Jabbar, and later Kobe+O 'Neal, Duncan and larry bird continued the Celtics' winning tradition. They all established dynasty teams or continued the winning tradition of the team. " Pierce said.

First Jordan, second Jabbar, third James, fourth magician, fifth Kobe, sixth Duncan, eighth Russell, ninth Olajuwon and tenth O 'Neill. Personally, I think James is stable in the top five, because James is the first person in the position of small forward, and then James has not established a dynasty. I think James himself is a dynasty, winning the championship in the East for eight consecutive years, entering the finals for nine times, and how many Eastern teams have been rebuilt. A player can lead the team to the finals nine times with the core of the team, which is a dynasty in itself.

The story happened when paul pierce, a former Celtic player, participated in a program and gave his ranking of the top five players in NBA history, while LeBron James did not enter the top five in history. Pierce ranked Michael Jordan first, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar second, bill russell third, Magic Johnson fourth and Kobe Bryant fifth. And after watching Jordan's documentary "The Last Dance", his ranking was even more affirmed. One of the main reasons is that these excellent players will establish their own traditions and their own teams, and they can establish and continue the traditions of the team.

Regardless of other data for the time being, let's review the matches between paul pierce and lebron james and their respective victories. The specific data are shown in the following table.

According to the data listed in the above table, it can be seen that all the data of LeBron James are higher than that of paul pierce. Paul pierce won 265,438+0 games.

According to the performance in the playoffs, LeBron James still has an advantage, and James won 17 games. So the conclusion is: the total record of the two is James 35:34 Pierce. The two played five times in the playoffs, among which James 3-2 Pierce and Jens were better than Pierce.

By building and inheriting a team, Pierce means that a player can stay in a team for a long time, establish his own tradition and inherit the tradition of the team. We also list those who have stayed in a team for a long time and established and inherited the team tradition in the form of a table. I listed the top five players in Pierce's history, as well as some representative players.

I don't think history is the best, but history TOP5 or even TOP3 can definitely enter. James won three championships in his career, two Olympic champions, three FMVP, four MVP and 16 All-Star. He has just become the youngest scoring record holder and the first in the active league. He is one of the most versatile players in NBA history. He got 33,000 points first.

First of all, James was put on the discussion list before he retired, which is a high honor in itself. I think before James, only Kobe has enjoyed this kind of treatment. I'm not Jamie or Kemi. Let's be objective.

If James retires now, then I don't think he will enter the top 5 in history. Why do you say that? First, the ability to lead the team, Lao Zhan has never taken the team too far by himself. Second, James is a very good player in the playoffs and finals, but his performance at critical moments always makes people feel a little uncomfortable. Maybe his golf agent is too good, so the superstar plays too little. Wade, ray allen and Owen all had moments of competition in previous championships. James doesn't have many memorable moments except the big hat on the defensive end. Third, loyalty, this. However, when people are among the best in history, they can think of Russell. Why can't they always think of Chamberlain? In fact, according to the data, many stars are not bad, such as Olajuwon and drexler. Of course, here are just a few examples. There must be subjective feelings about ranking, otherwise Chamberlain is the god of basketball just by looking at the data.

Finally, personally, I think James has to play for at least five years. Unless he doesn't want to, this problem can be discussed after he retires. There are a thousand Hamlets in the hearts of a thousand people. Whether in the so-called top five in history or not, James also had a brilliant career, and the legendary superstar was just right.

Personally, I think James is still very good.