We know that Alibaba, as an e-commerce company, has gathered many elites because of Ma Yun's personal charm and strategic vision. In the grassroots era, Ma Yun has already planned the future, which is quite right. It seems that Ma Yun knew what would happen to Alibaba very early.
This is amazing. After Alibaba entered the e-commerce industry, it did not lose in the face of the strong attack from the international giant ebay. Instead, it drove the powerful ebay out of China. Since then, Ma Yun has become famous in World War I, and Alibaba has also become famous in World War I..
So now, Alibaba's business empire is too huge. It is based on e-commerce and radiates around. Now its business map is very huge. At the same time, there is Alipay, an unlisted super giant. For Ali, domestic e-commerce and mobile payment finance have almost no rivals. Tencent's WeChat payment has caused a lot of trouble, but in essence, Alipay is really desperate.
Let's talk about Huawei. Everyone was down and out, with a debt of 2 million, and was removed from the company. At the same time, several people in the family crowded into a broken house and borrowed money to set up Huawei. Well, at that difficult moment, Ren predicted the future clouds. He told Huawei's brothers that Huawei will have 1/3 in the future communication industry.
Suddenly found that great people have something in common. Huawei began to compete with international giants from a small switch, and now it has become a giant in the field of communication industry and the owner of 5G technology. It is hard to imagine that a private enterprise can make such great achievements. After all, the whole of China lacks core technology in many fields, and what Huawei has now is precisely the core technology in the communication field.
In addition to communication in the basic field, Huawei also made a mobile terminal Huawei mobile phone. However, I didn't expect Huawei's mobile phone to carry this brand glory, becoming the absolute overlord in China and the second largest in global sales. Now I have my own core chip, Kirin processor.
Alibaba and Huawei are the absolute overlords of China!
We all know that the Internet industry does have great advantages over traditional industries, because it does not belong to the asset-oriented model. Usually, a week's ideas and an interesting application can spread across national boundaries.
Obviously, as an Internet giant, Alibaba does have advantages over Huawei in the traditional communication industry, just as Huawei is doing behind-the-scenes work in the communication industry, while Alibaba is doing front-desk work.
In addition, we know that Ma Yun's traffic is huge, and Alibaba's reputation has already spread all over the world. In particular, it defeated the mighty ebay that year, which made Alibaba famous in the whole Internet world.
Today, Alibaba's overseas policies, such as Alipay's overseas name and global overseas purchase double 1 1, make Alibaba very famous at home and abroad.
In this respect, Huawei is at a disadvantage because it is a communication base station. Generally speaking, as for telecom companies, ordinary users in Hubei only contact Huawei through its mobile phone terminals, but obviously Huawei's influence overseas is far less than that at home. In this way, Huawei's popularity overseas may be limited to insiders.
Tencent first, then Ali. In this world, which China company has greater influence than Huawei? Obviously not. So the answer to this question is undoubtedly that Huawei's influence is much greater than Alibaba's.
The United States is undoubtedly the most powerful country on the planet. With its strong national strength, has the United States joined forces with other countries to crack down on a private enterprise on a large scale in history? Obviously, this is very rare. We have never seen a spokesman of the Foreign Ministry of China frequently speak for a China enterprise and the United States. Therefore, Huawei's 5G business has risen to the level of tit-for-tat at the national level. As far as this influence is concerned, no enterprise can surpass Huawei since the founding of the People's Republic of China, although Huawei itself does not like this influence.
For Ali, Ali's influence is limited to domestic. In China, Huawei has always been a low-key style before it set foot in the terminal field, while Ali has always been a high-profile style. On the Internet, Ma Yun's speeches on strategic layout abound. Boss Ma has brought countless opportunities for people all over the country to get rich. Ali's powerful propaganda machine makes Alibaba's achievements known to everyone. Compared with other internet companies in China, only the hammer can be more high-profile than Ali.
Huawei's Zheng Fei, before the accident of 5G, the opportunity to show up was mysterious. For example, most network set-top boxes or smart cameras in China use Huawei Hisilicon chips, and Huawei's wireless and wired communications have long occupied half of China. These Huawei are relatively low-key and rarely publicized.
The author believes that Huawei's low profile except for the terminal is because Huawei is still focused on industry, while Alibaba's high profile is to make more money in the virtual economy. For example, Internet finance is almost promoted by Ma Yun. Because it only talks about finance and does not talk about risks, Ant Financial has made Alipay a full pot, and now no one has cleaned up the chicken feathers.
Ali's influence overseas is far less than Huawei's. The main reason is that Ali's main business does not have irreplaceable core competitiveness, and Ali's competitors abroad are very mature. Once he left the China government to support this soil, Ali's acceptance among foreign users was not high. Moreover, foreign countries worship Microsoft, Google, Tesla and Facebook, which are the real leading enterprises of technological innovation in Silicon Valley. Ma Yun's high-profile marketing quotations are not popular abroad.
Enterprises with great influence in the world, in addition to the increase in sales scale, must be high-tech enterprises, that is, enterprises with real bones that can really fight.
Then let's compare Huawei and Ali with specific figures. First of all, from the world's top 500, Huawei ranks 72, Alibaba ranks 300, and Huawei is much higher than Ali.
In terms of R&D investment, Huawei ranks among the top five in the world, and its R&D investment of 20 18 is close to10 billion RMB, which is three times that of Alibaba. However, this is also related to Huawei focusing on more fields than Alibaba. Alibaba's R&D investment in China is still very admirable.
Compared with their respective fields, Huawei's basic communication and Ali's shopping platform do not cross each other. We compare the technical details of the next generation Internet between the two companies, mainly including the strengths of artificial intelligence, cloud, Internet of Things and 5G applications.
In terms of artificial intelligence capabilities, Huawei is far ahead of Alibaba. This is because Huawei's AI chip ranks 12 in the world (the only listed company in China), and Huawei's end-to-end industrial chain of artificial intelligence such as consumers and communications is much higher than that of Alibaba.
From the perspective of public cloud, Alibaba Cloud is well-deserved 1 in China, and the strength of the top three in the world is also hard power, while Huawei Cloud can't even rank among the top five in China. However, I think Huawei's global cloud computing influence is greater than Ali's, mainly because Alibaba Cloud benefits from the China market, and Huawei's cloud market is not as good as Ali's. However, the cloud server based on ARM's self-developed Kunpeng chip is also the only localized server in China, and Huawei's global shipments rank in the top five, and Ali has not yet developed its own server capability.
From the perspective of the Internet of Things, Huawei is the global mainstream participant in the industrial Internet of Things and the main leader of the NB IOT standard. In terms of home Internet of Things, Huawei, like Ali, has just started, but it is also a supplier of many home Internet of Things equipment chips in China, that is, Ali has Huawei and Ali has no Huawei.
From the perspective of the application technology of 5G, 5G and its application technologies (such as unmanned driving and telemedicine) are basically nothing to Alibaba. Ali has not laid out the details of 5G in To C and To B, so Alibaba must lose here.
So obviously, Ali's technical background is far from Huawei except Alibaba Cloud. This has not counted Huawei's top three hard power in the field of data communication, wireless and other basic communications in the world, nor its global influence in the field of mobile terminals. Therefore, Ali's international influence is obviously far less than Huawei's, but Ali's marketing ability and Ma's speech ability far exceed Huawei's.
The reason why Huawei has such a great international influence is that Huawei can have the competitiveness of core software and hardware in its fields and lead the world. On the contrary, Alibaba is not as good as Huawei in other fields except cloud computing.
Both companies are good companies in China. I hope Huawei will continue to move forward and Ali can make efforts in other fields.
To be honest, putting Huawei and Alibaba together is like comparing scientists to actors and athletes. Even Madame Curie is not necessarily comparable to Shirley Temple and Kobe, let alone an ordinary scientist.
We don't think that Alibaba has no scientific content, and the Internet itself is the product of the development of science and technology to a certain stage. However, due to the popularity of e-commerce and Ma Yun's good at creating momentum, Alibaba's international influence is definitely stronger than Huawei's. If nothing else, e-commerce alone is enough to let most people in the world know about Alibaba. Coupled with Ma Yun's actor stunts, how does Huawei's influence compare with Alibaba?
However, judging from the international influence of China's economy and the demand of future economic development, especially the importance attached by developed countries, Alibaba can't compare with Huawei, nor can it be considered that its influence will surpass Huawei. Otherwise, why does the United States not restrict Alibaba, but desperately prevent Huawei from entering? Not only that, but also encourage other countries to stop Huawei together? Isn't it because Huawei is too powerful and its international influence is too great?
Therefore, don't associate the Nobel Prize with the Oscar Prize, especially the Miss Universe election. There is no comparability.
Ali and Huawei belong to two different fields, both of which have certain popularity and influence in their respective fields, but if we want to say which one is more influential in the world, it must be Huawei. However, internationally, Ma Yun should be more influential than Ren Zheng Fei.
Although Alibaba is also actively developing its internationalization strategy, there is still a big gap with Huawei in terms of international business layout and international business. This is not the pursuit of Huawei, but the comparison through the data of the first level.
In 20 18, the global brand consulting company "Interbrand" published the TOP 100 list of the world's best brands in 20 18, among which Huawei was the only China company selected as the top 100 brand, ranking 68th in the world, which was the fifth consecutive year that Huawei was shortlisted in this list. Alibaba is not on the list.
20 19 February, Global WPP and Kaidu released "BrandZ 20 19" in Beijing. Top 50 overseas brands in China reported that among the top 50 overseas brands in China, Huawei ranked first with a brand power score of 1862, and Alibaba ranked third with a brand power score of 1624.
According to the financial report of Huawei 20 18, the revenue of Huawei China 20 18 was RMB 372.2 billion, accounting for 5 1.6%. The income of Europe, Middle East and Africa was 204.5 billion yuan, accounting for 28.4%; Asia-Pacific revenue is 8 19 billion yuan, accounting for11.4%; American income was 47.9 billion yuan, accounting for 6.6%. In other words, almost half of Huawei's revenue comes from the international market.
Alibaba's international business accounts for a relatively small proportion. At present, Alibaba's annual report for fiscal year 20 19 has not yet been published, but according to the financial data of the first quarter of 20 18, Alibaba's international retail business revenue in this quarter reached 43160,000 yuan, up 64% year-on-year, and international revenue accounted for 1 1%. This is a long way from Huawei's international business accounting for about 50%.
In recent years, Alibaba has also vigorously deployed its international business. For example, by investing billions of dollars in Lazada, Alibaba has further targeted 600 million consumers in Southeast Asia, including Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam and the Philippines. Invest in Indian retail e-commerce BigBasket and Snapdeal to acquire a majority stake in Paytm, a mobile payment platform; Acquired Trendyol, the largest and fastest-growing mobile e-commerce platform in the Middle East, with more than 2,000 merchants and160,000 users for $750 million; South America special line covering 200 million consumers jointly launched by Cainiao Logistics and AliExpress; Build the first eWTP pilot in Africa in Rwanda to help African SMEs. At present, Alibaba has about 654.38 billion global users.
However, the internationalization of Alibaba only started in recent years, while the internationalization of Huawei started very early. At present, Huawei's carrier business and consumer business such as mobile phones occupy a large share in the world.
For example, at present, operators in many countries are using Huawei's base stations, and Huawei's mobile phone sales in the world in recent years are even more brilliant. At present, Huawei's mobile phone sales are the third in the world, and residents in many countries are using Huawei mobile phones. It is conservatively estimated that Huawei's products have directly and indirectly affected at least 3 billion people around the world.
By the end of 20 18, Huawei had established 22 regional departments overseas, with more than 100 branches and 36 training centers.
At present, Huawei has188,000 employees, and its business covers 170 countries and regions, serving more than 3 billion people. 188,000 employees, the proportion of foreign employees is about 20%, equivalent to about 40,000. In addition, Huawei also has the "Future Seeds" project, which sowed the seeds of hope in 108 countries and regions. For example, in 2065, 438+08, more than 4,700 outstanding college students from all over the world visited and studied at Huawei headquarters, and these people will directly or indirectly help Huawei to enhance its international influence.
As for how many overseas institutions and employees Alibaba currently has, there are no specific statistics, but the proportion should not be too much, because most of Alibaba's employees and institutions mainly engaged in e-commerce business are in China.
Relatively speaking, Ren is much lower-key than Ma Yun at present. Many people may know Huawei, but many people don't know Ren, but this can't hide Ren's outstanding leadership.
Huawei's international influence is greater than Alibaba's, but Ma Yun's international influence is greater than Huawei's.
However, Huawei and Alibaba are the pride of national enterprises and the greatest technology companies in the world. Ren Zheng Fei and Ma Yun are the greatest entrepreneurs in the world, and they are also the most respectable entrepreneurs.
Huawei's business covers the whole world. At present, Huawei is the world's largest telecom equipment manufacturer and the second-largest smartphone brand in the world. Huawei has launched business in more than 70 countries and regions around the world, serving more than one-third of the world's population. In 20 17, Huawei's annual operating income exceeded 600 billion, of which more than half came from overseas markets.
Up to now, Huawei has more than180,000 employees in more than 160 different countries around the world, and the proportion of overseas employees exceeds 70%. Huawei has more than 70,000 industrial patents, half of which are contributed by overseas branches.
It can be said that Huawei is a genuine international technology giant, with reasonable revenue structure, reasonable distribution of consumer business and enterprise business, healthy overseas revenue and domestic revenue structure, and a number of industry patents in the fields of 5G communication, telecom equipment, mobile processors, etc. It is a well-deserved industry giant.
At present, Alibaba's business is mainly concentrated in the domestic market. Whether it is Taobao, Tmall, Alibaba, Alibaba Cloud or Alipay, it is rarely used abroad.
Alibaba's overseas business is basically to help foreigners sell things to China. At present, it has not really realized that domestic things are sold overseas. Alipay is basically opened by foreign merchants to facilitate domestic tourists to travel abroad, and foreigners rarely use it.
However, Alibaba is also trying to change this pattern, such as investing in Lazada, an e-commerce company in Southeast Asia, and paytm, an Indian mobile payment company. Alibaba is seeking a breakthrough in internationalization and realizing internationalization at an early date, but it is still far from Huawei's real internationalization.
A set of big data shows that Huawei people ranked first in China in terms of air mileage in 20 17 and 20 18, which can explain how good Huawei is in internationalization. However, Ren Zheng Fei, the founder of Huawei, kept a low profile and rarely made public appearances. I remember writing an article about low-key entrepreneurs before, and Ren was one of them.
You should know that when Mr. Ma attended activities in various countries, he met with politicians and heads of state from many countries, which is not the treatment that ordinary entrepreneurs can enjoy.
Ma Yun is different. Teacher Ma has almost traveled all over the world. In fact, doing so is very beneficial to entrepreneurs in China, which is equivalent to endorsing enterprises in China and enhancing the international reputation of Alibaba and enterprises in China.
Mr. Ma Yun is also an advocate of the United Nations and the sustainable development goals, a special adviser to the United Nations on youth entrepreneurship and small and medium-sized enterprises, and recently served as co-chair of the United Nations High-level Group on Digital Cooperation. The annual salary of each position is $65,438 +0, which is very exciting to think about. After all, the salary is higher than that of Teacher Ma.
And don't think that Mr. Ma's position is empty, but really do things! Teacher Ma has given guidance and lectures on youth entrepreneurship in South Africa, Malaysia, South Korea and other countries for many times. Moreover, Teacher Ma also advocated Alibaba's public welfare for two hours, and many projects such as ANT FOREST and Ali's public welfare started under the influence of Teacher Ma.
So in general, Huawei's international influence is greater than Alibaba's, but Ma Yun's international influence is not greater than certification.
Huawei, 17, ranked 83 among the top 500 Huawei companies and 462 among the top 500 Ali companies. These two are not at the same level at all. The most important thing is that Huawei's products can be sold all over the world, and Ali can get along in China.
Then there is my personal opinion. I don't think much of either company. As domestic leading enterprises, these two private enterprises openly take the lead in violating the labor law. The Labor Law stipulates that the working week is 8 hours, and the weekend and overtime work shall not exceed 8 hours per week. What about Huawei and Ali? They are all 996. Google China, Microsoft China, why is it an eight-hour weekend? Tell me about your Huawei branches in the United States and Europe. Why don't foreigners respect you? So I suggest that it engineers had better go to Google China and Microsoft China. Stay away from the pit than private enterprises.
There is no comparability. Pure influence is Ali. Ali is like a movie star, and everyone knows that Huawei is like China's own scientist! For ordinary people, if you don't engage in mobile phones in recent years, many people still don't know about this company! Many people don't understand that Alibaba is taking advantage of the trend and Huawei is going upstream! In our communication circle, Huawei is really the god of many people, because its technology and management are irreplaceable! Now Taobao's idea is to copy Amazon, and WeChat is to copy Facebook. Basically, most of the so-called innovations in China are basically plagiarism. Plagiarism, coupled with the business model and China's demographic dividend, is even more ridiculous! At least Amazon is not that fake! Of course, Ali's influence cannot be ignored. After all, the price of a horse is there, and ordinary people can't tell you what to do! No black, no praise, only different opinions! And Huawei went bankrupt, and ordinary people really didn't feel it. However, the pace of commercialization and globalization of communication technology in China is at least ten years behind. But Ali went bankrupt, and many companies will replace him, and it can be replaced in an absolute short time. If you let go of the restrictions, even Tencent will die! Because Baidu has died more than ten thousand times!
Huawei is the boss of the hardware industry, while Alibaba is the boss of the software industry. Both companies have strong influence at home and abroad. However, in terms of influence at home and abroad, Huawei is definitely much worse than Alibaba. Because after all, Huawei is the leading enterprise in the communication industry, and Alibaba is the top spot in the field of e-commerce. People don't know much about the communication industry, but they can know a lot about things in the field of e-commerce.
Where is Alibaba's strength? First of all, the e-commerce platform has become a part of people's lives. Many people can't buy things without online shopping, and they can buy their favorite goods without leaving home. But for Huawei mobile phones, you can choose or not. Moreover, e-commerce also likes to hold festivals, which not only attracts domestic people, but also attracts overseas netizens to participate in double 1 1 and other festivals. Therefore, Alibaba's influence in the world should not be underestimated.
Moreover, Alibaba platform can provide many jobs directly or indirectly, and no one can ignore the existence of Ali e-commerce platform. Even US President Trump wanted to meet Ma Yun, and Ma Yunneng immediately promised to solve the employment problem of 654.38+0 million people for the United States. It was only after the trade friction between China and the United States that Ma Yun's promise could only be invalidated. Now European leaders want to see Ma Yun, who is also an employee of the United Nations. For Huawei, it is only influential in its own field, and its products can be easily replaced.
Finally, Ma Yun of Alibaba not only creates trillions of online transactions every year, but also invests in logistics, take-away, express delivery, finance (including microfinance and small loan companies), mobile payment, bicycle enjoyment and so on. It is no exaggeration to say that Alibaba has already penetrated into the lives of China people. Maybe Alibaba is closed, and someone else will come up, but if Ali quits in all fields, the people of China can't live. Although Huawei accounts for 25% of the global market share and its revenue exceeds the sum of the three giants of BAT, its impact on Chinese people is still much worse than that of Alibaba.
Of course, in recent years, Huawei's influence in the world is also rising: on the one hand, because the US government has taken containment measures against Huawei's export of communication equipment to the United States and Huawei's acquisition of American high-tech enterprises, all countries in the world have developed a strong interest in Huawei. More importantly, Huawei's rapid development in the 5G field has also surprised European countries. Some European countries have also thrown huge orders at Huawei, while Qualcomm has lost its 5G orders.
On the other hand, Huawei, as a private technology enterprise, can make a breakthrough in the research and development of high-end chips, which makes the world dare not despise the achievements made in China's science and technology field. Huawei developed the core chip as early as 2009, which played a positive role in reducing China's dependence on American companies such as Intel and Qualcomm. At present, Huawei is unparalleled in the research and development of high-end chips in China. Its influence is also gradually rising rapidly.
Who says Huawei is irreplaceable at home and abroad? There are many companies that can replace Huawei. There are Cisco Ericsson abroad and ZTE Datang at home. Moreover, in China, Huawei does not have a monopoly position, and ZTE Datang still has a large market share. Internationally, Huawei's market share does not exceed 30%. This time, the Americans want to engage in Huawei because they have always been accustomed to bullying the weak and fearing the hard, denying China enterprises the right to speak, which has caused pressure on Cisco to compete in the market. Americans are also afraid of Ali's invasion. Last year, Trump banned Ant Financial from acquiring a mobile payment company in the United States. Of course, Alibaba can also be replaced, but the territory of Alibaba empire is too huge, involving too deep and too wide a field of people's livelihood. Once this platform is replaced, people will have a temporary discomfort. Because you are not sure about the service quality of changing Tencent or JD.COM. But once Huawei is replaced by a competitor, you will be completely unconscious. You can rest assured that the network will not be interrupted. This is what China Telecom, China Mobile and China Unicom need to deal with.
Huawei, of course. Alibaba is an internet company, providing services, which is very replaceable. Amazon is a substitute. I can use Alibaba's shopping service or Amazon's online shopping. And the cost of using substitutes will not be higher.
But Huawei is different. It is a hardware company. Hardware products are exclusive, and products from Huawei and other companies cannot be used at the same time. For example, between Samsung and Huawei's smartphones, consumers can only choose one. In the case of similar performance, consumers will naturally choose the one with lower price. In recent years, Samsung's mobile phone sales growth is weak, and Huawei's rapid growth is the reason.
At present, Huawei's products have occupied the first place in the global market, such as telecom equipment and core routers. In 20 17, the global telecom operators' outsourcing market revenue reached $67 billion, of which Huawei ranked first, accounting for 27%. The core router is the most critical equipment in the communication network, which is equivalent to the CPU of the computer. In this field, Huawei beat the overlord Cisco with a score of 20 17 and reached the top of the world. In the field of smart phones, Huawei ranked third in the world except 206 million in 20 18.
Huawei's awareness and influence overseas is far greater than Alibaba's. About half of Huawei's operating income comes from overseas. For example, in 20 18, Huawei sold 206 million mobile phones worldwide, of which 87 million were sold overseas every month, accounting for 42%. Alibaba's overseas income only accounts for a quarter, far less than half of Huawei's.
Now, Huawei has conquered the city in many fields, while western competitors Nokia, Ericsson and Cisco are already under pressure. Even the government came forward, introduced Huawei's no-entry measures and established a "firewall." If the western giants are not afraid of Huawei's strength, or Huawei is still Huawei in this century, will they be afraid?